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	<title>Comments on: Why I Can&#8217;t Vote for Clinton (Or Anyone Else Who Enabled The War).</title>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey K(NYS):

I don&#039;t think Tim was trying to discriminate between those who do and those who don&#039;t choose suicide.  Tim and I go back more than 20 years, and several of our mutual friends have chosen suicide.  During high school it was at least one friend a year: Christy R., Jamie F., and James C. come to mind.  After HS, we lost Matty B., John St. J., Mike S. (that might have been murder), Matt C. and a few I&#039;ve probably missed.

Tim has no illusions about what type commits suicide.  I think what he meant was that for some suicides, you could almost see it coming, while the guy in question, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey K(NYS):</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Tim was trying to discriminate between those who do and those who don&#8217;t choose suicide.  Tim and I go back more than 20 years, and several of our mutual friends have chosen suicide.  During high school it was at least one friend a year: Christy R., Jamie F., and James C. come to mind.  After HS, we lost Matty B., John St. J., Mike S. (that might have been murder), Matt C. and a few I&#8217;ve probably missed.</p>
<p>Tim has no illusions about what type commits suicide.  I think what he meant was that for some suicides, you could almost see it coming, while the guy in question, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: kate (not your sister)</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate (not your sister)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>such a small point, and in no way takes away from the awful tragedy of the story (and the unavoidable conclusion that this fellow&#039;s death was so unecessary), but one thing in Tim&#039;s message rankled me:

&quot;and was too fucking cerebral to remotely fit any profile of a suicide case.&quot;

&quot;Cerebral&quot; people commit suicide all the time.  Whether he meant &quot;contemplative&quot; or &quot;smart&quot; by &quot;cerebral,&quot; the point still holds.  The dumb cows who DON&#039;T spend any time in contemplation are least likely to commit suicide... why would they?  There&#039;s always more twinkies in Aisle 3, and hey, a new episode of American Idol is on next Tuesday!  YaaaY!

this is almost certainly beside the point Tim and Brendan were trying to make here. (And I did get that point.. and don&#039;t disagree with it).  MY point is that there&#039;s no &quot;model&quot; of a person who commits suicide... and being smart/contemplative is certainly no protection against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>such a small point, and in no way takes away from the awful tragedy of the story (and the unavoidable conclusion that this fellow&#8217;s death was so unecessary), but one thing in Tim&#8217;s message rankled me:</p>
<p>&#8220;and was too fucking cerebral to remotely fit any profile of a suicide case.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Cerebral&#8221; people commit suicide all the time.  Whether he meant &#8220;contemplative&#8221; or &#8220;smart&#8221; by &#8220;cerebral,&#8221; the point still holds.  The dumb cows who DON&#8217;T spend any time in contemplation are least likely to commit suicide&#8230; why would they?  There&#8217;s always more twinkies in Aisle 3, and hey, a new episode of American Idol is on next Tuesday!  YaaaY!</p>
<p>this is almost certainly beside the point Tim and Brendan were trying to make here. (And I did get that point.. and don&#8217;t disagree with it).  MY point is that there&#8217;s no &#8220;model&#8221; of a person who commits suicide&#8230; and being smart/contemplative is certainly no protection against it.</p>
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